Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work – 2015 Acura TLX

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B15-038
July 25, 2015
02159 Version 1

 

Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work

 

AFFECTED VEHICLES

Year Model Trim VIN Range
2015 TLX V6 with A/T ALL

 

SYMPTOM

The vehicle hesitates, surges, idles high, shifts hard, or auto idle stop does not work.

 

POSSIBLE CAUSE

The idle learn is unable to relearn its parameters when the CAN system is interrupted during an ECM, TCM, or control unit update.

 

CORRECTIVE ACTION

Update the PGM-FI software.

 

SOFTWARE INFORMATION

NOTE: Unnecessary or incorrect repairs resulting from a failure to update the HDS or MVCI are not covered under warranty.

MVCI Control Module (CM) Update:
Application Version 3.01.42 or later
Database update 25-JUN-2015 or later

HDS Software Version:
3.016.033 or later

Before beginning the update, make sure that both the HDS and MVCI are updated as listed above.

Do only the update listed in this service bulletin.

Check that the MVCI indicates the applicable program ID listed below (or a later program ID) as the Available Update when the update begins.

If the MVCI displays This vehicle does not need an update at this time during the update, the software for this service bulletin is already installed.

For more information about updating the HDS, the MVCI, and vehicle systems, refer to Service Bulletin 01-026, Updating Control Units/Modules.

Year/Model Program ID (or later) Program P/N (or later)
2015 TLX AWD Tech J2A750 37805-5J2-A750
2015 TLX AWD Advanced J2A850 37805-5J2-A850
2015 TLX 2WD Tech J2A560 37805-5J2-A560
2015 TLX 2WD Advanced J2A660 37805-5J2-A660

 

WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION

Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Template ID Failed Part Number
125517 Update the PGM-FI software 0.2 hr 15-038N 37820-5J2-A84
H Idle Learn – Add 0.1 hr

 

Defect Code: 03214
Symptom Code: 03217
Skill Level: Repair Technician

 

REPAIR PROCEDURE

  1. Update the PGM-FI software with the MVCI. Refer to Service Bulletin 01-026, Updating Control Units/Modules.
  2. Do the idle learn procedure.

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Reprogramming

i-HDS Diagnostic Software and J2534 Reprogramming Software

 

Honda J2534 Pass-Thru User Guide

Honda J2534 Pass-Thru Software Download

Latest ECU Software

 

i-HDS Diagnostic Software and J2534 Reprogramming Software

American Honda Motor Co., Inc. ("Honda") offers the i-HDS (Honda Diagnostic System) software suite for the diagnosis and repair of electronic systems on Honda and Acura automobiles, and for the reprogramming of electronic control units (including, but not limited to, ECMs and PCMs). This software provides access to all Honda and Acura vehicle systems (access to the immobilizer security system requires a Security Professional level software subscription and Vehicle Security Professional [VSP] registration with NASTF). To use the i-HDS software, you need to purchase one of our convenient subscription options. In addition, you will need a pass-thru Vehicle Communication Device (VCI) that is compliant with SAE J2534-1 and J2534-2 in order to communicate with the vehicle

 

Vehicle Communication Interfaces (VCI)

The i-HDS software supports the use of a generic pass-thru VCI that is compliant with SAE J2534-1 and J2534-2. However, Honda recommends the Denso DST-i or the Bosch MVCI for use on Honda and Acura vehicles, as Honda has worked closely with these manufacturers to ensure their hardware and our software interact safely and within the J2534-1 and -2 specifications, for both diagnostics and reprogramming. If you choose to use a generic VCI, please carefully consider the customer and technical support options you will receive from your chosen device supplier. Honda does not provide technical or customer support for generic VCI devices.

The VCI Application Table below lists devices that either are approved and supported by Honda or are known to have completed and passed an independent, exhaustive validation program with our i-HDS software suite.

VCI Name Manufacturer Version Information Notes
Firmware J2534 API
DST-i DENSO 2.02.0002* 04.04 This is the current generation VCI used by Honda and Acura dealers. Honda routinely validates the functionality and provides customer support for this device.
DST-nano DENSO 2.02.0002* 04.04 This is the current generation VCI used by Honda Canada Inc. Honda and Acura dealers. Honda routinely validates the functionality and provides customer support for this device.
MVCI Bosch 3.01.60* 04.04 This is the previous generation VCI used by Honda and Acura dealers. Honda routinely validates the functionality and provides customer support for this device.
MongoosePro Honda Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work - 2015 Acura TLX | small light Drew Technologies 1.9.5** 04.04 This company has completed an independent i-HDS validation and claims it to function with the i-HDS software. Honda does not provide ongoing validation, nor customer support for this device.
d-briDGe Pro Dearborn Group 3.303** 04.04 This company has completed an independent i-HDS validation and claims it to function with the i-HDS software. Honda does not provide ongoing validation, nor customer support for this device.

* These versions may have been superseded. Honda provides the latest supported versions to current i-HDS subscribers.
** Version used in validation program. See Terms and Conditions and Important Notice Regarding Reprogramming below for more details.

 

Reprogramming with the J2534 Rewrite Application in i-HDS

Included in the i-HDS software suite is a new reprogramming application called J2534 Rewrite. This application is made available to all subscribers of the i-HDS software suite and replaces the previous generation software, J2534 Honda Pass-thru Reprogramming Software.

This new application is compatible with generic VCIs that comply with SAE J2534. It must be used to reprogram any Honda/Acura vehicle equipped with ECUs that support reprogramming. Refer to the table below for legacy applicability for the programming of ECMs and PCMs. Though system dependent, late-model vehicles may be equipped with other ECUs that support reprogramming as well, e.g. ABS or VSA. J2534 Rewrite must be used to reprogram these control modules, as instructed in an applicable service bulletin.

As shown in this table, not all legacy Honda/Acura models are equipped with a reprogrammable ECM/PCM. Furthermore, all 2007 and later models not listed in the table are fully supported with this application.

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Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work - 2015 Acura TLX | small light Drew Technologies (DRWCDPLUSKIT) CarDAQ-Plus J2534 Flash Reprogramming Kit
Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work - 2015 Acura TLX | small light CarDAQ-M Modular PassThru J2534 Vehicle Reflash Hardware
Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work - 2015 Acura TLX | small light VSI J2534 ECU Reprogrammer & Diagnostic Adapter
Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work - 2015 Acura TLX | small light MAXIFLASH PRO (ALT-MF2534)

 

DST-i Information:

MVCI Information:

 

techinfo.honda.com

 


 

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