Firm 2nd to 3rd Gear Upshifts Under Certain Driving Conditions – 2015 Acura TLX

B15-040
March 22, 2017
05972 Version 7

 

Firm 2nd to 3rd Gear Upshifts Under Certain Driving Conditions

Supersedes 15-040, dated July 19, 2016, to revise the information highlighted in yellow

 

AFFECTED VEHICLES

Year Model Trim VIN Range
2015 TLX V6 2WD 19UUB2…FA000001 to 19UUB2…FA021489
2015 TLX V6 SH-AWD® 19UUB3…FA000001 to 19UUB3…FA007728

 

REVISON SUMMARY

  • Under WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION, additional information was added.
  • REPAIR PROCEDURE information was changed.

 

BACKGROUND

Under very specific driving conditions the customer may notice the 2-3 upshift is more pronounced (firmer) than the other shifts. The transmission is working properly and this does not indicate a problem. This is not a durability concern.

 

CORRECTIVE ACTION

To get optimal performance out of the transmission, update the TCM software, clear any DTCs, and do the PCM idle learn procedure.

After the update has been done, if the client returns after driving the vehicle 500 miles and is still concerned about the  2-3 shift, go to REPAIR PROCEDURE; REPLACE TRANSMISSION.

NOTE:

  • The transmission is constantly learning.
  • After the update, it is important for the transmission to learn and to adapt to the client’s driving habits. This process can only be done by allowing the client to drive the vehicle for 500 miles.
  • Any repair done before the client has driven 500 miles after installing the software update is subject to debit.
  • To verify the correct software has been installed and the PCM idle learn is complete before ordering a transmission, send Tech Line a transmission snapshot when you feel the hard shift. Failure to provide a snapshot at the time of the order review will cause the order to be denied and it will have to be resubmitted after the snapshot is sent.

 

 

WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION

The normal warranty applies.

Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Defect Code Symptom Code Template ID Failed Part Number
2235A2 Update the TCM software and clear any DTCs. 0.2 hr 03214 03217 15-040N 06280-5L9-A52
A Do the PCM idle learn procedure. 0.1 hr

 

Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Defect Code Symptom Code Template ID Failed Part Number
218102 Base or Tech (2WD) – Replace the transmission and torque converter. 5.8 hrs 03214 03217 15-040W 06227-5J4-000
B Alignment – add 0.4 hrs
218102 Advance (2WD) – Replace the transmission and torque converter. 5.8 hrs 03214 03217 15-040X 06227-5J4-000
B Alignment – add 0.4 hrs

 

Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Defect Code Symptom Code Template ID Failed Part Number
218102 Base or Tech (SH-AWD) – Replace the transmission and torque converter. 5.8hrs 03214 03217 15-040Y 06227-5J4-000
A For SH-AWD – add 0.4 hr
B Alignment – add 0.4 hrs
218102 Advance (SH-AWD) –

Replace the transmission and torque converter.

5.8 hrs 03214 03217 15-040Z 06227-5J4-000
A For SH-AWD – add 0.4 hr
B Alignment – add 0.4 hrs

Skill Level:  Repair Technician

 

REPAIR PROCEDURE – UPDATE TCM

SOFTWARE INFORMATION

NOTE: Unnecessary or incorrect repairs resulting from a failure to update the HDS is not covered under warranty.

i-HDS Software Version: 1.001.004 or later

J2534 Software Information:
 Rewrite Version 1.0.1.12 or later
Database update 08-JUN-2016 or later

Before beginning the repair, make sure that both the i-HDS and J2534 software are updated as listed above.

Do only the update listed in this service bulletin.

You cannot apply the updates with the MVCI as a standalone tool. To update the vehicle you must use the MVCI or the DST-I interface in conjunction with the J2534 Rewrite PC application on the i-HDS.

For more information about updating the i-HDS and vehicle systems, refer to Service Bulletin 01-026, Updating Control Units/Modules.

 

Year/Model Trim Program ID (or later) Program P/N (or later)
2015 TLX 2WD Base/Tech J43150 28101-5J4-3150
2015 TLX 2WD Advance J43160 28101-5J4-3160
2015 TLX SH-AWD Base/Tech L93150 28101-5L9-3150
2015 TLX SH-AWD Advance L93170 28101-5L9-3160

 

  1. Update the TCM software. Refer to S/B 01-026, Updating Control Units/Modules.

NOTE:

  • On vehicles equipped with auto idle stop, the MVCI may indicate error code 56 during the update. If you see the error code, open the hood, disable auto idle stop using the switch in the center console area, and retry the update again leaving the hood open.
  • After completing the software update, check the Idle Learning signal in the PGM-FI Data List. If it reads NOT COMPLETE, check the Target Idle Torque Correction Learning If it reads 65 N·m (47.9 lb-ft), you need to update the PCM. Refer to S/B15-038, Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work, for software update information.  If the value reads 12 N·m (8.8 lb-ft), complete the idle learn  according to the service information.
  1. Clear any stored DTCs with the HDS.
  2. Do the PCM idle learn procedure:
    • Make sure all electrical items (A/C, audio unit, rear window defogger, lights, etc.) are turned off.
    • Start the engine and let it reach operating temperature (the cooling fans cycle twice).
    • Let the engine idle for 10 minutes with the throttle fully closed.
    • Turn the ignition to OFF.
    • Jump the SCS line with the i-HDS.
    • Wait 60 seconds, then exit the SCS mode.

 

REPAIR PROCEDURE – REPLACE TRANSMISSION SOFTWARE INFORMATION

NOTE: Unnecessary or incorrect repairs resulting from a failure to update the i-HDS is not covered under warranty.

i-HDS Software Version: 1.001.014 or later

J2534 Software Information:
 PC Application Version 1.0.1.12 or later
Database update 08-JUN-2016 or later

Before beginning the repair, make sure that both the i-HDS and J2534 software are updated as listed above.

Do only the update listed in this service bulletin.

You cannot apply the updates with the MVCI as a standalone tool. To update the vehicle you must use the MVCI or the DST-I interface in conjunction with the J2534 Rewrite PC application on the i-HDS.

For more information about updating the i-HDS and vehicle systems, refer to Service Bulletin 01-026, Updating Control Units/Modules.

Program ID’s for replacement transmission.

Model Program ID or above Program ID or Above
2WD BASE, TECH 4A590 28101-5J4-A590
2WD ADVANCE 4A690 28101-5J4-A690
SH-AWD BASE, TECH 9A690 28101-5L9-A690
SH-AWD ADVANCE 9A700 28101-5L9-A700

 

Required Parts for 2WD and SH-AWD:

Transmission

Application Part Number
2WD Base, Technology 06200-5J4-A58RM
2WD Advance 06200-5J4-A68RM
SH-AWD Base, Technology 06200-5L9-A59RM
SH-AWD Advance 06200-5L9-A69RM

 

Required Parts for 2WD and SH-AWD:

Part Name Part Number Quantity
Flange Bolt (12 mm x 120 mm) 90051-5J4-000 1
Flange Bolt (12 mm x 70 mm) 90051-R97-000 1
Flange Bolt (10 mm x 30 mm) 90161-T2F-A01 3
Flange Bolt (10 mm x 30 mm) 90163-SDB-A00 3
Flange Bolt (10 mm x 34 mm) 90162-T2A-A00 4
Flange Bolt (10 mm x 35 mm) 90163-SDA-A01 1
Flange Bolt (10 mm x 45 mm) 90163-TZ3-A00 1
Flange Bolt (10 mm x 45 mm) 90163-SZ3-000  3
Flange Bolt (12 mm x 33 mm) 90186-SDA-A00 2
Flange Bolt (12 mm x 45 mm) 90165-SDA-A00 2
Flange Bolt (12 mm x 45 mm) 90164-T2G-A01 1
Flange Bolt (14 mm x 135 mm) 90176-SDA-A00  4
Bolt-Washer (8 mm x 16 mm) 90101-SWA-A00 2
Exhaust Pipe Gasket (ISHINO) 18212-SA7-003  2
Pre-Chamber Gasket 18393-SDB-A00  1
Flange Nut (12 mm) 90371-SEF-000 4
Castle Nut (14 mm) 90363-S3V-A01 2
Self-Lock Nut (10 mm) 90212-SA5-003  9
Spindle Nut 90305-S3V-A11  2
Split Pin (3.0 mm x 22 mm) 94201-30220  2
Set Ring (32 mm x 2.2 mm) 44319-STX-A60  1
Snap Ring (32 mm x 2.2 mm) 44319-STX-A01  1

 

For SH-AWD, also add the following:

Part Name Part Number Quantity
12-Point Bolt (8 mm x 21 mm) 90113-S10-000 8
Bolt-Washer (10 mm x 30 mm) 90382-SZA-003  2
Shaft Ring Seal Kit (SH-AWD) 06235-5L9-000 1

 

Required Material

Part Name Part Number Quantity
Acura Long Life Antifreeze/Coolant Type 2 OL999-9011A  1.9L (64 fl oz.)

 

Repair Procedure

  1. Replace the transmission; refer to service information.

NOTE:

  • You can’t update the vehicle using the MVCI as a standalone tool.
  • Do not use the MongoosePro VCI tool.
  • Make sure the 12 volt battery is fully charged before starting an update.
  • Connect a fully charged jumper battery to the vehicle and leave it connected during the entire procedure to maintain steady voltage.
  • Never turn the ignition to OFF or ACCESSORY during the update. If there is a problem with the update, leave the ignition turned to ON.
  • To prevent transmission control unit damage, do not operate anything electrical (headlights, audio system, brakes, A/C, power windows, door locks, etc.) during the update.
  • If you see the following Error Display, check that you are using the correct tool (MVCI or DST-i) with the i-HDS.

Error Display

 

To change this, click on either of the SETTING selection buttons at the bottom of the J2534 initial screens as shown.

SETTING selection buttons

 

  1. Make sure the parking brake is applied and the headlights are off.
  2. Update the TCM software by selecting the i-HDS Diagnostic System icon. Refer to Service Bulletin 01-026, Updating Control Units/ Modules.

NOTE: Do not use the Rewrite icon on your desktop.

Do not use the Rewrite icon

 

  1. Select J2534 Rewrite.

J2534 Rewrite

 

  1. Confirm the software is the same or later as listed in SOFTWARE INFORMATION.

Confirm the software is the same or later

 

  1. Select Start, then follow the screen prompts.

NOTE:

  • Don’t enter a bulletin number.

follow the screen prompts

 

  1. Clear all DTCs.
  2. Do the PCM idle learn procedure.

NOTE: Before beginning the repair, make sure that the i-HDS is up to date.


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Vehicle Communication Interfaces (VCI)

The i-HDS software supports the use of a generic pass-thru VCI that is compliant with SAE J2534-1 and J2534-2. However, Honda recommends the Denso DST-i or the Bosch MVCI for use on Honda and Acura vehicles, as Honda has worked closely with these manufacturers to ensure their hardware and our software interact safely and within the J2534-1 and -2 specifications, for both diagnostics and reprogramming. If you choose to use a generic VCI, please carefully consider the customer and technical support options you will receive from your chosen device supplier. Honda does not provide technical or customer support for generic VCI devices.    

The VCI Application Table below lists devices that either are approved and supported by Honda or are known to have completed and passed an independent, exhaustive validation program with our i-HDS software suite.

Manufacturer VCI Name Version Information Notes
Firmware J2534 API
DENSO DST-i 2.00.0010* 04.04 This is the current generation VCI used by Honda and Acura dealers. Honda routinely validates the functionality and provides customer support for this device.
Bosch MVCI  3.01.54* 04.04 This is the previous generation VCI used by Honda and Acura dealers. Honda routinely validates the functionality and provides customer support for this device.
Drew Technologies MongoosePro Honda  1.7.7** 04.04 This company has completed an independent i-HDS validation and claims it to function with the i-HDS software. Honda does not provide ongoing validation, nor customer support for this device.
Dearborn Group d-briDGe Pro  3.303** 04.04 This company has completed an independent i-HDS validation and claims it to function with the i-HDS software. Honda does not provide ongoing validation, nor customer support for this device.

* These versions may have been superseded. Honda provides the latest supported versions to current i-HDS subscribers.
** Version used in validation program. See Terms and Conditions and Important Notice Regarding Reprogramming below for more details.

 

DST-i Information:

 

MVCI Information:

 

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