KG0 Safety Recall: 2013-2016 Honda Accord Battery Management Sensor

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NHTSA Campaign Number: 17V418
Manufacturer Honda (American Honda Motor Co.)
Components ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Potential Number of Units Affected 1,148,550

 

Battery Sensor May Short

An electrical short increases the risk of a fire.

 

Summary

Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2013-2016 Honda Accord vehicles.

The case for the battery sensor, part of the battery management system, may allow water to get in, potentially causing an electrical short.

 

Remedy

Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the sensor, free of charge.

Remedy parts are currently unavailable.

Dealers will perform an interim remedy of applying adhesive to the case to prevent water intrusion.

Interim notices are expected to be mailed on July 31, 2017.

Owners will need to have the permanent remedy completed once they receive a second notice.

Owners may contact American Honda Customer Support Center at 1-888-234-2138.

Honda’s number for this recall is KG0.

 

Notes

Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.

 

Check if your Honda has a Recall

 

A17-057
July 29, 2017
07119 Version 3

 

Safety Recall: 2013–16 Accord Battery Management Sensor

Supersedes 17-057 dated July 11, 2017; See REVISION SUMMARY

 

AFFECTED VEHICLES

Year Model Trim VIN Range
2013–16 Accord (except Hybrid) ALL Check the iN VIN status for eligibility

 

REVISION SUMMARY

The information on how to read resistance in step 6 of the REPAIR PROCEDURE was clarified.

 

BACKGROUND

The case for the battery sensor mounted at the top of the 12V battery may have been improperly manufactured with gaps that could allow for moisture entry. If moisture containing road salt, or other conductive substances, enters the battery sensor, it could result in an electrical short and, subsequently, a fire.

The repair quality of covered vehicles is extremely important to American Honda (AHM). To ensure the repair is done correctly, AHM recommends designating at least one technician (someone other than the person doing the repair) to verify the repair quality of every vehicle prior to delivering the vehicle back to the customer.

Make sure you take accurate resistance measurements so that the customer receives the correct repair to help ensure their safety.

Vehicles that receive the temporary repair as part of this campaign must return to have the battery management sensor replaced once parts are available later this year (2017).

 

CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION

Owners of affected vehicles will be sent a notification of this campaign.

Do an iN VIN status inquiry to make sure the vehicle is shown as eligible.

Some vehicles affected by this campaign may be in your new or used vehicle inventory.

Failure to repair a vehicle subject to a recall or campaign may subject your dealership to claims or lawsuits from the customer or anyone else harmed as a result of such failure. To see if a vehicle in inventory is affected by this safety recall, do a VIN status inquiry before selling it.

 

CORRECTIVE ACTION

Inspect the battery sensor and do one of the following:

  • Apply Konishi Bond because the resistance check is good (temporary repair).
  • Determine that the battery sensor is OK because it was previously replaced with a counter-measured part.
  • Replace the sensor because DTC P154A (battery sensor internal failure) is stored (permanent repair).
  • Replace the battery sensor because the resistance check (less than 5 000 Ω [5.0 kΩ]) is no good (permanent repair).

NOTE: Make sure you take accurate resistance measurements so that the customer receives the correct repair to help ensure their safety. Refer to page 5, Reading the Meter for help in understanding the resistance values.

 

 

REQUIRED MATERIALS

Part Name Part Number Quantity
Konishi Bond SL420HW

NOTE: This Konishi Bond hardens when exposed to humidity.

Make sure you squeeze out all the air when replacing the cap. This material was supplied specifically for this procedure. Do not use it for other applications.

070AZ-0010300 1

(1 tube repairs about 60 vehicles.)

 

PARTS INFORMATION

Part Name Part Number Quantity
Battery Sensor

NOTE: Replace only if the original fails the resistance inspection (less than 5 000 Ω [5.0 kΩ]) or DTC P154A is stored.

38920-T2A-A04 1

 

TOOL INFORMATION

Tool Name Tool Number Quantity
Digital Volt-Ohm Meter (DVOM)

NOTE: Refer to Reading the Meter for more information.

FLU88

FLU87VE2KIT

(or equivalent)

1

 

 

WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION

NOTE:

  • To avoid non-payment of warranty claims, the two battery sensor resistance values (include the k or M, if applicable) or DTC P154A must be entered into the DTC field of the warranty claim.
  • Process claims as quickly as possible to help administer the permanent repair once parts are available.

Battery Sensor NOT Replaced

Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Defect Code Symptom Code Template ID Failed Part Number
7105B2 Battery sensor is not replaced because resistance is GOOD and Konishi Bond was applied for temporary fix.

– Enter the 2 resistance values in the DTC fields

0.6 hr 6XX00 KG000 17-057A 38920-T2A-A03
7105A9 Battery sensor is not replaced because sensor has a countermeasure mark.

– Enter the 2 resistance values in the DTC fields

0.5 hr 6XX00 KG000 17-057B 38920-T2A-A03

 

Battery Sensor Replaced

Operation Number Description Flat Rate Time Defect Code Symptom Code Template ID Failed Part Number
7105B0 Battery sensor is replaced because DTC P154A is stored.

– Enter DTC in DTC field

0.4 hr 6XX00 KG000 17-057C 38920-T2A-A03
7105B1 Battery sensor replaced because sensor resistance was NO GOOD.

– Enter the 2 resistance values in the DTC fields

0.5 hr 6XX00 KG000 17-057D 38920-T2A-A03

 

Skill Level: Repair Technician

 

INSPECTION PROCEDURE

NOTE:

  • The repair quality of covered vehicles is extremely important to AHM. To ensure the repair is done correctly, AHM recommends designating at least one technician (someone other than the person doing the repair) to verify the repair quality of every vehicle prior to delivering the vehicle back to the customer.
  • Make sure you take accurate measurements so that the customer receives the correct repair to help ensure their safety.
  • Refer to your DVOM user guide to set the zero point initialization of the resistance measurement mode before doing the inspection.
  • If your DVOM is not auto-ranging and you do not know how to manually set the range for this procedure, refer to either the DVOMs user guide or see AUTO RANGE SETTING.
  • For more information about measuring resistance, refer to training module ELS31 – Measuring Resistance.
  1. Connect the i-HDS and check if DTC P154A is indicated in PGM-FI.
    • If DTC P154A is indicated, replace the battery sensor. Make sure the DTC is recorded on the RO and entered in the warranty claim.
    • If DTC P154A is not indicated, go to step 2.
  2. Make sure the ignition is turned to OFF.
  3. Disconnect the battery sensor connector.

battery sensor

 

  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable from the battery sensor.

NOTE: To avoid damaging the battery sensor connector, do not touch it or press on it when removing the negative battery cable.

  1. Remove the battery sensor from the battery negative post.
  2. Check the battery sensor’s internal resistance. NOTE:
    • Before measuring the resistance, refer to your DVOM user guide to set the zero point initialization for the resistance measurement mode.
    • Do not use an insulating resistance tester because you may damage the internal circuit.
    • Clean any dirt, grease, oil, water, etc. from the ground terminal before checking resistance. If you need to clean the terminal, do not apply any cleaner directly to the sensor. Apply the cleaner to a clean shop cloth, then use the cloth to clean the sensor.
    • Be careful not to damage the pins when probing them.
    • When placing the black test lead to take your measurement, make sure you place it on the solid metal of the bracket, not the bolt.
    • Since there is an internal capacitor, the readings may change. Make sure the reading has stabilized.

 

Reading the meter Auto-Ranging Meter

  • Use an auto-ranging meter when possible.
  • The resistance value for a good sensor is usually hundreds of thousands or millions of ohms of resistance.
  • When using an auto-ranging meter, look for a K (kilo) or M (mega) to indicate the full value of the reading.

Auto-Ranging Meter

 

 

Non-Auto Ranging Meter

  • The resistance value for a good sensor is usually hundreds of thousands or millions of ohms of resistance. If your meter’s range value it set too low, you may see a 1 or OL. Additionally, if it is set too high, you may see a 0.
  • When measuring resistance, set your meter’s range at its highest setting and measure the resistance. If you do not see a value, turn your meter down one measurement value and measure resistance again. Continue lowering the measurement value until you see a measurement.

Non-Auto Ranging Meter

 

 

Reading the Meter Value

Meter Dial Setting Understanding the Ohms (Ω) Setting Meter Reading How to Calculate Resistance Value
200 The value displayed is

the measured value. No multiplication is required.

Meter Reading 50 x 1Ω (setting at 200 Ω)

= 50 Ω total

2k

20k

200k

k = 1 000.

Multiply the meter reading by 1 000 for the resistance value.

Meter Reading 5 x 1 000 Ω (setting at

20k Ω) = 5 000 Ω

2M

20M

M = 1 000 000

Multiply the meter reading by 1 000 000 for the resistance value.

Meter Reading 5 x 1 000 000 (setting at

20M Ω) = 5 000 000 Ω

 

 

Examples:

Meter Reading How to Interpret Reading Total Ohms Is the Sensor Good?
1.4 MΩ 1.4 x 1 000 000 1 400 000 Ω GOOD
0.75 MΩ 0.75 x 1 000 000 750 000 Ω GOOD
5.0 kΩ 5 x 1 000 5 000 Ω GOOD
4.8 kΩ 4.8 x 1000 4 800 Ω NO GOOD
330 Ω 330 x 1 332 Ω NO GOOD

 

Measure the resistance between the bracket and pin 2, then between the bracket and pin 3.

  • If the resistance is below 5,000 ohms (5.0K) on either pin, the sensor is NO GOOD. Write down the two resistance values (make sure to include the k or M, if applicable) on the RO, and replace the battery sensor.
  • If the resistance is 5,000 ohms (5.0K) or higher on both pins, the sensor is GOOD. Write down the two resistance values (make sure to include the k or M, if applicable) on the RO, and go to step 7 to determine the next steps.

Measure the resistance

 

  1. Check if the battery sensor has the punch mark as shown below.

Measure the resistance

 

 

REPAIR PROCEDURE

  1. Wipe off any dirt, grease, or oil from the indicated area on the battery sensor with a clean shop towel. Do not apply any cleaner.

battery sensor

 

  1. Start applying the Konishi Bond in the area shown, then fill the rest of the sensor area.

NOTE: Make sure you fill the entire area. Do not leave any gaps or openings.

battery sensor

 

  1. Using the included scraping tool (or equivalent), scrape off any extra Konishi Bond. If any Konishi Bond is on the pin area, make sure to clean it off.

battery sensor

 

  1. Let the Konishi Bond harden for about 30 minutes. You do not have to oversee the drying process.

NOTE: Do not try to accelerate the hardening process by applying heat because you can damage the battery sensor.

  1. Check that the area between the negative battery post and battery sensor is clean, then apply multipurpose grease to the battery negative terminal to help prevent corrosion.

battery sensor

 

  1. Without touching the area with the Konishi Bond, install the battery sensor onto the battery and torque the nut to 5.9 N·m (4.4 lb-ft).
  2. Install the negative battery cable. Torque the nut to 8 N·m (8.7 lb-ft).
  3. Connect the battery sensor connector.
  4. Connect the i-HDS.
  5. Turn the ignition to ON.
  6. Clear any stored DTCs.

 

END

 

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  1. I just had NHTSA Recall 17V-418 (batter sensor) replaced on my 2013 Honda Accord V6LX NAV on 12-13-2017 at Silko Honda Raynham MA, and on Sunday 12-17-2017 my battery is now dead. Some sensor… I was also at the dealer looking to resolve the issue with the starter TSB 10088442 starter clearance issue they told me $500.00 for the starter, 2 hours of labor. That is what a Honda starter is worth and doesn’t work correctly? They also said they won’t pay for it but have done numerous repairs and that alone may not fix the issue and I may need the torque converter replaced as well. The other service guy rolled his eyes when the first service guy asked him how many repairs of the starter he had done. Very disappointed in Honda and Silko Honda specifically, who buy the way touts the best warranty. Don’t be fooled by Silko Honda. Never buying at Silko Honda again or a Honda for that matter.

    Reply
    • Same here …
      Memo
      05/25/2018
      Edward and Carmelita Chang
      2013 Honda Accord VIN 1HGCR2F74DA215028 – Dead Battery Events
      Our series of battery replacements and or re-charged repairs began with a Honda battery management sensor (BMS) recall. Received a letter from Honda stating that our car could be brought in for a temporary repair as the BMS is not available yet for installation.
      In September of 2017 Honda of Lompoc installed the temporary repair for the BMS recall. In October of 2017 our Accord would not start. Our four year battery is dead. We tow the Accord in and end up purchasing a new Honda Battery. The service advisor stated that the battery could have been at end of life.
      In December of 2017 we experience another dead battery-no start event in Las Vegas while on vacation. Purchased an AAA battery with our coverage mobile roadside service. Contacted Honda of Lompoc and reported another dead battery event. We also asked for a service repair with a thorough investigation and explanation of our battery problems. Honda of Lompoc stated that the BMS is now available and ready for installation and to bring the Accord in for service too. Applied for a Honda Corporate reimbursement on our battery replacement. We have not received a reply from Honda yet. Honda of Lompoc installed the new BMS. No repair or explanation of battery issue.
      In February of 2018 another dead battery event. Honda technician Brandon Shin found an intermittent high current ampere draw from the driver side door electrical components associated with fuse #21. This current ampere draw is found to be out of specifications >50mA. The problem is difficult to absolutely point out a defective component according Mr. Shin. While troubleshooting the out of specification current ampere draw ceases and normal circuit operation is observed. Honda of Lompoc charges battery and check charging circuit which is reported nominal. We received the Accord once again with doubts and no confidence whatsoever. No charge for service.
      May 7, 2018 towing car into Honda of Lompoc again. They perform routine checks of charging circuits and found battery dead but chargeable. Honda reports same issue and unable to repair our car. Battery is charged and we once again lack any confidence in the vehicle.
      May 25, 2017 Honda Accord does not start. We purchase a battery charger and charging it ourselves.
      Quick Summary –
      1. 9/29/17 – BSM temporary recall repair
      2. 10/16/17 – Dead 4 year battery; purchased Honda battery; no explanation of problem
      3. 12/10/17 – Dead battery in Las Vegas; Purchase AAA battery; requested Honda reimbursement; final recall BSM installation is completed; no explanation of problem; no service charge
      4. 2/1/18 – Dead battery; no reimbursement yet; re-charge battery; tech finds intermittent current ampere draw from driver’s door circuit; related to fuse #21; Honda states current ampere draw is >50mA and out of specifications; no service charge
      5. 5/7/18 – Dead battery; Lompoc Honda will not send towing as we requested; AAA towed and charged us accordingly; tech finds current ampere draw in passenger door circuit also; nothings done about it; re-charge battery and received car with no service charge
      6. 5/25/18 – Dead battery; purchased battery charger to charge our own battery

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